here what ive done first i went threw with my wire locater to check for broken wires and located all the valves. WebPress the Station Finder soft key, and select the station number to locate. Come join the discussion about performance, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! If successful, it will display the Dec It helps us both when you are in front of the controller when we speak. Rod says that Hunter ICD decoders should draw 3.5 to 4ma. I have replaced the decoder module and I am experiencing the same problem. Dual/Pilot decoder not recognized by hand held. All diagnostic functions are completed via wireless communication between the EZ-DT and EZ-1 decoders. WebTroubleshoot wire breaks, nicks, damage, and shorts Solve issues with wires, valves and locating decoders Assists with set-up and product recommendations Supports all 2-wire Make sure power is on to controller. If A failed decoder may read 500-600 mA over that decoders lead wires. If there is no problem with the decoder lead wires, then split the connections for the 2-wire path. Trace and mark the 2-wire path using a 501 or 521 if necessary. Connect the Pulser to the 2-wire path that is isolated from the controller. Awesome sps2868. Read the resistance of the wire pair that connects the two decoders together. The readings should be between 0-60 depending on distance between decoders (see decoder wire resistance chart). If connection/wiring breaks are not visible, then use a cable tracer to track the wire issue. nothing works. also there are 22 stations. To view this page in a different language, please select from the list below. When the Start button is pressed, the controller will chatter the solenoid for up to 30 minutes. <>/Font<>/ProcSet[/PDF/Text/ImageB/ImageC/ImageI] >>/MediaBox[ 0 0 612 792] /Contents 4 0 R/Group<>/Tabs/S/StructParents 0>> Rod your a big help.. when i called hunter support last thursday the rep i talked to was just reading a book and didnt know a clue what i was talking about almost. This seems serious enough for the big kahuna to do a site visit. Hunter have been exceptional with their service over the years. The wire test will place a 60 Hz frequency on all output modules and their two-wire paths, to allow wire tracking and fault finding with a standard AC current clamp meter. The ICD-HP will check for a decoder. When troubleshooting is finished, press the soft key again to turn off the 60 Hz wire test mode. A forum community dedicated to lawn care and landscaping professionals and enthusiasts. Thank you. So here's the recap guys: Success! It's easy enough to spec triacs in a controller that will operate on the safe side of a glass fuse curve. Operating large numbers Thank you very much, I will be calling Hunter Support tomorrow. Manually activate the desired station to energize the two-wire path. Reduce timer or turn off backlight display. 1 0 obj 1:01:06 Tools for Troubleshooting. Hunter does have an "ACC Decoder System Troubleshooting Guide", although I can't find a link to it anywhere on their website. if more reps reacted to product concerns the way you do Rod i believe they would received much better on this or any forum. Example of using glass fuse holders on ADM. Any luck using self-resetting polyfuses instead of conventional glass fuses? %PDF-1.5 Start the controller manually. If you are going to maintain 2-wire systems, you want to have a clamp-around "leakage meter" that can read the milliamp currents drawn by the decoders. The AC current will drop sharply between two points on the wire path, if the short circuit or fault to earth is between them. endobj stream endobj Program dummy station numbers into decoder. Display backlight will reduce battery life. If it is there for a long period of time, the ICD-HP is retrying due to communication failures. O.k, you're holding the phone in one hand and the notebook in the other..how do you write? If the voltage did not change, verify that Repeat firmware update steps and allow to complete. Check controller power to two-wire path, or connect power leads to decoder. Copyright 2023 Hunter Industries. 5[@l$w ZIeQ|"+m}Z % nothing works. Greenhouse, Nursery, and Open-Field Irrigation. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. I am troubleshooting a Hunter ACC 2 wire decoder system and could use some advice. The Diagnostics screen displays an overview of the electrical status of each installed output module, plus additional functions. Come join the discussion about performance, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! Thanks for your patience. XhArBLfR6+$!$/}^T%]'N$xRP:D,d_c GuC`5PC.7|/$C. Decoder will not respond after firmware update. HunterTekGeek 1. I will also explore a shorted solenoid. Sounds weird, but you need a 24 VAC transformer. Current is very helpful in troubleshooting field wiring conditions. Sometimes it works perfectly fine. I have only gotten the problem to show itself for me once, that was today after installing the new module. Verify that the two wire path is connected to the controller, and that controller power is Whats the next step? Make sure you have a clampmeter and notebook in your hands, I can't tell you how portant they both are. here what ive done first i went threw with my wire locater to check for broken wires and located all the valves. That Jim Guy said: Rather than seeing 10.5-12.0 ma you should be getting about 4.5 at the 3rd decoder. One of my location have a hunter acc 2 wire. ACC2 - Troubleshooting nothing works. Master Valve not on (station solenoid is on, but no water). I love the product. Why don't you just buy your controllers from dealers instead of off the back of a truck in the middle of the night. I have a great video by an engineer named Barry Brents he explains when to use poly switching and when you might not want to. Sprinkus, nice job on providing the Decoder Troubleshooting Guide. G'Day sprinklerkid_australia --- Your Armada Tech clamp meter is trying to read milliamps at 35 VAC and 1.2 Hertz. Check two-wire path and controller power. Web1:00:00 EZ Decoder Diagnostics. Is that true? ICD-HP - Troubleshooting | Hunter Industries Decoder is powered from ICD-HP power leads. STEP 1: Verify Station Fault Remove the field wire for the faulted station. First, I invite you to call Tech Service at 800-733-2823 to help get this resolved. w?Lhq ?N~5kd>wkSrzPq$`p_PD8q One of my location have a hunter acc 2 wire. Any current-limiting circuitry would serve as transformer protection as well as triac protection. WebThe bottom of the decoder (the end with no wires) should be within the programming cup. Check with your local sales rep and request a class. http://blog.circuitprotection.com/bwitch-device-and-when-to-use-a-fuse-te-talks/, http://blog.circuitprotection.com/bwitch-device-and-when-to-use-a-fuse-TE-talks/, http://www.underhillonline.net/Faulting_Transformer_p/transfrmr-240.htm, http://www.hunterindustries.com/sites/default/files/ACC_Flash_Update_Instructions.pdf. Two Wire Troubleshooting Guide Support Weba defective solenoid, 2) defective field wiring, or 3) poor wire connections. Check flow sensor wiring. ICD-HP will not communicate with decoder. The decoder may be damaged. Woo-Hoo! Hunter ACC controller issue <>>> There will be more online material in the future. If Select. HCC Manual Operation. JavaScript is disabled. Y1-XBL)~\d1on4a*NkHIcOB\pMEw4pl>=U`S&bSh 9umf,[$ctNKXle5I<5~8[y!ofCO]myN 'T,]>V 7T% A forum community dedicated to lawn care and landscaping professionals and enthusiasts. My Armada clamp meter shows 1.5ma on my ICD100 decoders. I think it isn't posted online because it needs updating. However there have only been two fault messages, each for a random zone (19,22) stating "comm" error. When no stations are running (Inactive), this shows the standby current draw of idle decoders on the two-wire path. I have chatted a few times with hunter support and with the local hunter rep but I figured I would try a different perspective. All rights reserved. Hi tlawn86 - I work for Hunter and don't jump in here often, so I hope this is okay. Hi tlawn86 - I work for Hunter and don't jump in here often, so I hope this is okay. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. WebEZDT - EZ-1 Decoder Diagnostics and Troubleshooting. WebOpen the controller inner door to see additional diagnostic information on the DUAL48M display. To stop the chatter, press the soft key again, or it will stop by itself after 30 minutes. The decoder will not respond after a firmware update, Dual/Pilot decoder not recognized by handheld. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Sounds weird, but you need a 24 VAC transformer. Decoder Any luck using self-resetting polyfuses instead of conventional glass fuses? When 12 comes on there shouldn't be any measurable current on the same wire on the 11 valve. Verify flow limits and delays allow for some variation. A failed decoder may read 500-600 mA over that decoders lead wires. Hunter ACC Decoders Sprinkler Supply Store Know most of the Hunter guys in San Marcos. Ask the Expert: 5 Resources for 2-Wire Troubleshooting if more reps reacted to product concerns the way you do Rod i believe they would received much better on this or any forum. ACC-99D uses two-wire decoders to control up to 99 stations without giving up the arsenal of features provided by the ACC. also there ICD-HP - Decoder Programming Menu | Hunter Industries I will check on it. WebHunter ACC Decoders. I remember reading the phrase "electronic circuit breaker" in product descriptions when the glass fuses and mechanical circuit breakers were no longer included with sprinkler controllers. ?t5Za')i6/3^mAa` B@9xkWJIj#vc$lsv$ $ac9]zruP!53yT)Ek8k~oF2|jS(KzwR%~qQPxS*=[{n{;GCNBRq;4E+ajt'b34vII +sa:fKJ For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Ditto on the classy rep. Those are posts well worth saving. Come join the discussion about performance, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! Troubleshooting Decoder-Based Irrigation Systems Regency Wire & Cable 3.86K subscribers Subscribe 230 Share 40K views 5 years ago Learn how to The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. 1:09:06 System Troubleshooting. Thanks to all for the kind words. <> ICDHP Decoder System User Manual ICD-HP Owners Manual Sorry. http://www.hunterindustries.com/sites/default/files/ACC_Flash_Update_Instructions.pdf, http://www.hunterindustries.com/sites/default/files/DG_DecoderDesignGuide_dom.pdf, http://www.turf-digital.com/Jul2011/South#&pageSet=12&page=0. I'd say a helper would be handy. Hi guys. Greenhouse, Nursery, and Open-Field Irrigation. WebMove the pointer with the arrow buttons at the Main Menu screen to Program Decoder and press Next . When the Start button is pressed, the controller will chatter the solenoid for up to 30 minutes. Check Programming Cup connection to decoder and ICD-HP. Most manufacturers use a diagnostic circuit breaker on the triac/output side of things. 1.5 Amp, fused, with alligator clips, with the primary wired to a pigtail. 1:15:16 Types of Problems. Woo-Hoo! All rights reserved. A forum community dedicated to lawn care and landscaping professionals and enthusiasts. Check battery display or retry with USB power if available. If the decoder reading fails, a red X will appear in the display. My Armada clamp meter shows 1.5ma on my ICD100 decoders. WebAttempt to turn on the decoder from the controller (Manual Single Station or ICR remote). The display may show Press the Mode (center) button on the DUAL48M control panel. Fault Messages | Hunter Industries Copyright 2023 Hunter Industries. Check the voltage on the output of the decoder. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. 1.5 Amp, fused, with alligator clips, need help trouble shooting a hunter acc 2 wire - Lawn Care Forum and the error code i get is "overcurrent" or "no comm" Does any one have any ideas. Overflow messages. When the program doesn't run, the "module/line activity" light is rapidly blinking red. 4 0 obj I like barry he uses a white board which I like and dry erase markers which I love, ill post a link if i can find it. Otherwise data history only shows "power outage" and "power restore" due to the homeowner shutting off the breaker, which he says 'almost' always allows the box to work properly. Some of us employ self-healing transformer technology which may use a poly-switch or other resettable device. I scheduled with the homeowner for Friday morning, so I will be calling at 8am Hawaii time this friday. Hunter 2 wire troubleshoot | Lawn Care Forum How to use a clamp-meter to troubleshoot: 1. Hunter does have an "ACC Decoder System Troubleshooting Guide", although I can't find a link to it anywhere on their website. I hate to disappoint 1idejim, but no Speedos were used or harmed during this operation. All rights reserved. WebDetect faults and perform electrical troubleshooting in the field without uninstalling decoders Quickly read decoder status, station address, current draw, and two-wire voltage to simplify maintenance Program decoder station address via wired connection to speed up installation and save time on-site Not sure how their fuse size compares to the actual transformer ratings. 3 0 obj Of course, the primary design concern for controllers is probably going to be to have triacs that can handle the entire output of the supply transformer up to its internal fuse opening point. Success! Disconnect the 2-wire path (s) from the controller.